And how many attempts did it take for the case?
GAUTIER: I did not count but I would say much more and actually, I think the bracelet was the most challenging for me.
We were joined by Trilobe's Managing Director, Volcy Bloch as she gave us her insight on how it's like working with Gautier whilst overseeing an entire business at the same time.
How do you balance between Gautier's creative mind as opposed to comparing it with market viability? Do you two ever come to loggerheads in terms of him being too creative and whether it will be marketable?
VOLCY: Not at all! In the sense that I think that the strength of a brand is really put as a priority and to also be creative. We don't have like a marketing brief, which says, "You have to do this, or you have to do this." And it seems the more creative we are, the more consistent we are also. We are fully consistent in our DNA.
As the Managing Director of Trilobe, how do you approach the operational complexity when transitioning from from an assembly-focused business model to running a complete Manufacture in Paris?
VOLCY: I am not sure that the fact that we are manufacturers changes anything in the way we approach operations. I think from the beginning, we have a very long-term vision for the brand. We always have this ambition of creating a true French creative artistic Manufacture. Now, what is very important in our operations is that we try to partner with the best with The Hour Glass being one of it.
We need partners that understand where we are as a brand, understand where we are going, understand the vision and the ambition that we have. Take The Hour Glass for example. I think Mr. Michael Tay has been one of the very first to promote independent watchmaking and is someone who is passionate about watchmaking. He's a prescriptor in a way and for us to be able to partner with his team is a way we drive our operation and this is what we are looking for a little bit everywhere in the world.
Do you see any differences in terms of collectors preferences when it comes to Asia and Europe?
VOLCY: The funny thing is that when we started the business, initially we thought in our business plan that France would be our first market. It helps that The Hour Glass did an excellent job to educate customers in watchmaking. And we can really feel that in these markets like in Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand. We think that in some other markets as well, where customers are really seeking for something different, which tells us that they are more mature, I would say. They are more into watchmaking, so they are more educated when it comes to that. These regions are actually a very interesting market for us. The European market is progressing in terms of independent watchmaking, but it's still relatively new.
The US is a really good market but, creatively speaking, we also try to make sure that we spread our presence a bit everywhere. We don't want to rely on one specific market because we've seen a lot of brands who were relying on China. That's really risky so we try to spread our presence globally, speaking all over the world, to make sure that we don't rely on one specific target. But, as a local client out here, we can feel that it's really passionate and educated. And it's also what we like, it's very local. They're very interesting too, but they don't show off at all, which we love.
You mentioned that France isn't the best market when it comes to Trilobe, but how was the response from the locals when they discovered this it's actually a locally-grown brand?
VOLCY: You know it's funny because when we introduced this collection, we had a huge article on the most important French media called Le Figaro. And they said we are the first French manufacturer 200 years after Breguet. I called the journalist and I said thank you.
And he told us, "You know, I do my homework. I've been studying and I interviewed other journalists before writing it because I could not afford to write something that was wrong. At the end of the day, you deserve it. You are the first real Parisian manufacturer." So I told him, "Really, thank you! It's so nice of you to write this." And he said, "We are very proud of you guys as well." So we've received a really warm response and feedback because the watchmaking industry was very French in the beginning so having us back in the game, they are kind of proud of us.
Is there a level of expectations that you feel you must meet now, having been mentioned in the same breath as Breguet?
VOLCY: I don't think we have any expectations. But I think the expectation is that we are still here in the next 20 to 30 years. So the way we operate the company is really with our long-term vision. We don't want make any compromises on our vision. We've been working together for eight years now since the very beginning, sharing the same office. From the beginning we've never questioned our vision. I mean, the vision has always been very clear and we're really into that. Every decision that we take, we try to make sure it's a long-term decision. So I think expectation remains consistent in what we do, being qualitative, and make sure that we are still here in the next 20 to 30 years.